Simrad NSS8 & Raymarine e7, with radar in the rain

Ben Ellison

Ben Ellison

Panbo editor, publisher & chief bottlewasher from 4/2005 until 8/2018, and now excited to have Ben Stein as very able publisher, webmaster, and editing colleague. Panbo is going to the next level in 2019 and beyond.

9 Responses

  1. Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

    One thing you may notice in the NSS screen shots is that the 4G radar is not seeing well behind my boat. I think it’s a combination of factors, one being that the 4G is mounted in front of a flying bridge full of electronics as seen in the current header photo. The other factor is that Broadband seems to be more sensitive to such onboard obstructions, though the 4G at some ranges is seeing better aft than the 2G it replaced.

  2. Dean says:

    Great article Ben, just what I was looking for. Still makes the decision hard to make between the two. I think I’m leaning towards 4G for power efficiency and target clarity, but will once again put it all on hold until they release GoFree. I know its off the Radar topic here but have you heard anything more about GoFee?
    Thanks Dean

  3. Brian Engle says:

    Wow, this debunks a lot of the online scuttlebutt that says 4G can’t see rain cells. I’m surprised to realize just how useful it actually is. Awesome real world information, btw. Thank you!

  4. thedon says:

    …you seriously need a Furuno DRS Radar with NavNet (TZT is outstanding) on there. It’ll blow this away. The Radar has overlay Range Link and a true dual range radar, so even if you are zoomed in on overlay, yet zoomed out on Radar both images remain clear and relative.
    Also, even though the 4G is good for broadband at range its still actually rather terrible at range. I am still yet to be sold on broadband. Every image I see is not that good. Especially in relation to their marketing.

  5. Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

    Actually I do still have a Furuno DRS2D on Gizmo, though it’s not attached to anything right now as I returned the NN3D MFD12 and am awaiting a loaner TZtouch. Furuno radar, even this little one, is amazing, as I noted last year when I used it for rain detection:
    http://www.panbo.com/archives/2011/07/furuno_drs2d_radome_punching_above_its_weight.html
    But I think that the Raymarine RD418HD is just as good at rain detection, while costing substantially less, and the Navico 4G sets a new bar for dual range radar. The competition in radome performance is good for all of us and, while Garmin is a bit of laggard, who will be surprised if they come up with something hot?

  6. Dan Corcoran (b393capt) says:

    Impressive, but the satellite weather product is so much easier to use. I can replay a timed loop of Doppler images to understand the storm, freezing frames and making distance measurements.
    Last Friday I snatched an extraordinary beautiful sunset sail from the clutches of an iffy forecast that kept most boats home, plus a sunset with two rainbows and a hat from the sailing club for completing the race others stayed home for.
    Using the Raymarine SR100 I was able to track and confirm the accuracy of a specific prediction (2 hour prediction from weather.com) of a row of storm cells becoming disorganized 5 miles short of our race course.
    With a backup plan at the ready (to run for a mooring field) we motored out of the harbor in weather so promising it didn’t occur to us to check email for a race cancellation.
    Attached below is a message that went out to my sailing club from the person that cancelled the race (I didn’t receive the cancellation). From Fleet Captain: Lloyd Harbor racers: Though I made a last minute call to abandon this past Friday’s pursuit race based on a slow moving and seemingly powerful storm cell, one of our members did not receive the notice, successfully skirted the storms – and completed the course.
    I was on Baycrest beach in Huntington Bay and did see Breeze Pleeze make her way around to the finish. And, though the race was without competition – it has been decided that Dan has earned his hat!

  7. Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

    Simrad NSS Version 2 software is out and it’s full of enhancements:
    http://www.simrad-yachting.com/en-US/Support/Downloads/NSS-Software/
    I’ve been using it for a few weeks now and I’m enjoying improved 4G radar display, full Class B AIS static data display, StuctureMap overlays, Navionics user generated data, PDF viewing (the manuals are easy to load and browse), and more. Plus I think the NSS8 on Gizmo is now faster. And, though not stated on that page, NSS V2 includes the first NMEA 0183 level of Navico’s GoFree strategy. I haven’t gotten it working yet but I should be able to get the 0183 data available on the NSS to Gizmo’s WiFi router and then to iPad and smartphone apps like iNavX. More to come (especially as I’m now done with all the local activities that have kept me from Panbo work).

  8. Kenneth A Hansen says:

    I have the e7 and e7d displays on my boat and one of the few things that I don’t like about them is that when adjusting the radar settings, you really don’t see what you are doing.
    Fortunatley, the latest software update fixes this problem with new on-screen shortcuts for gain, rain and sea. If the screen-shots are anything to go by, this will allow us to do the adjustments without obscuring the radar screen at the same time.

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