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Raymarine eS Series, long live the glass bridge

Ben Ellison

Ben Ellison

Panbo editor, publisher & chief bottlewasher since 4/12/2005, and now excited to have Ben Stein as a very able colleague. Panbo is going to the next level in 2018 and beyond.

15 Responses

  1. Anonymous says:

    Nice, but why no sailing features like Garmin and B&G.

  2. Dan Corcoran (b393capt) says:

    Ugh, I just bought an e125 three weeks ago to replace my e80.

  3. abbor says:

    Compared to Simrad NSS Evo2 and Garmin 7600xsv Raymarine eS is lacking support for Airmar CHIRP transducers and side scanning without external modules. And Raymarine don’t have a reasonably priced CHIRP module with Airmar CHIRP transducer support like what Simrad and Garmin have. The only Raymarine CHIRP sounders with Airmar support are the high end dual channel CHIRP sounders CP470 and CP570. Since the only CHIRP transducers directly supported by eS are the combined Down Imaging and high Q-factor 2D transducers (CPT-100 and similar) the sounder performance is comparable with Lowrance Elite CHIRP and not NSS Evo2 or 7600xsv.

  4. Thanks, Abbor, but I must add that the CP100/CPT120 combination I’m testing on Gizmo looks pretty good compared to the more powerful Airmar BM75 CHIRP transducer I can run direct to NSS evo2 or Garmin 741xsv. I’ve also been impressed with the performance of Ray’s SideVision that I’ve seen on two demo trips, though I don’t know if the transducer will ever be made in a thruhull version.
    Most important, though, is that what you descibe is the situation now, not the future. Raymarine has built a heck of an MFD platform and development process in recent years and I wouldn’t count them out in any area of electronics.
    That includes sailing features, too.

  5. Don Joyce says:

    Ben,
    Raymarine seems to have dropped inclusion of screen resolution specs as far as I can tell. Any idea about the resolution on these new ones?
    Cheers
    Don

  6. Karl says:

    For me, the brand is not even on my wish list until they add broadband, solid-state radar to the mix. That must be tied up in patents or licensing agreements for only a single manufacturer to offer it.
    I’m surprised someone hasn’t introduced an interface box to make 4G compatible with other brands of MFDs…it would seem technically doable, but maybe not legally doable.

  7. Jim Meader says:

    It looks like the Marine Industry is taking a page from the Home Automation industry. Instead of one control for every item in a house, heating, lights, locks, drapes, etc. they put it into one software interface that works on an tablet, phone or dedicated display.
    Once you go down that path pure convenience keeps you there, also it will be great for monitoring your boat with the cameras when your away.

  8. Geez, Don, I think the eS spec list is the most complete I’ve seen from any manufacturer, and I complimented them on it:
    http://www.raymarine.com/view/?id=12164&collectionid=179&col=12166
    You’ll see that the screens are all optically bonded multitouch with 1,250 nits of brightness and wide viewing angles. The 7 and 9 inch have 800 x 480 WVGA resolution, and the 12.1-inch is 1280 x 800 WVGA.
    The spec list even has detail like the type of Bluetooth and profiles supported, which other manufacturers seem shy about for some reason.
    Only spec I see missing is power usage and that’s “TBD”
    Karl, the Raymarine HD radomes and SHD open array radars are very good in my experience.

  9. Jim, I’ve been dabbling with home automation and have been surprised to learn that the marine world has a more pervasive standard for switching and simple monitoring data (NMEA 2000). The Internet connection is much harder, though, because boats move and the LAN to WAN link must always be wireless.

  10. Saffy The Pook says:

    I agree with Karl. This product line refresh is very welcome but I’ll be holding off from Raymarine until they get solid state RADAR. FLIR makes FMCW and solid state RADAR systems for the military so I suspect the issue is other than one of intellectual property.

  11. Correct, Saffy. Navico was clear from the start that they did not own FMCW intellectual property, but instead did a whole lot of work to make it hit a performance/price point that fit recreational boating. They also said that a key to Broadband/3G/4G radar is the availability at reasonable cost of certain solid state drivers because they’re used by other industries in high volume.
    So, yes, FLIR has solid state radar (and so does Garmin), but the hard part is making it for recreational marine at a tolerable price.

  12. Don says:

    Thanks Ben,
    I probably stared right at it several times and didn’t see it….sigh

  13. The FLIR FX camera is out, and I think it could be darn useful around a boat. Best review detail so far is at the Verge, though I think they missed the value of the cam’s versatility:
    http://www.theverge.com/2015/4/7/8355123/flir-fx-security-camera-hands-on
    Wouldn’t it be cool if they made it possible to live stream this camera to a Raymarine MFD network using WiFi?

  14. abbor says:

    I’ve had DragonFly which is using the CPT100 transducer and which is giving identical results as CP100 as well as the Raymarine MFD’s with built-in CHIRP sounders. I have Simrad NSS Evo2, Garmin 527xs Lowrance HDS Gen3 CHIRP sounders and TM150M, B75H, B175H-W and TM265LH CHIRP transducers. I also have Lowrance HST-WSBL and 83/200 kHz HDI transducers. CPT100 is comparable with HST-WSBL and HDI operated in CHIRP mode, not with Airmar CHIRP transducers. NSS Evo2 HDS Gen3 and 527xs are even with TM150M head and shoulders above CP100 in both resolution and sensitivity. For serious fishing there is no alternative to Airmar CHIRP transducers (and yes I’m of course aware Garmin GT50M and GT51M, but even these don’t seem to be able to match Airmar based on the first screen shots posted at THT)
    Of course I’m describing the situation now when commenting how the eS series is comparing with the competition, some which have been on the market for over a year.

  15. Tom says:

    When a customer can make the sonar images look crystal clear and NOT have to monkey with a series of button pushes, then and only then will they look and be as easy to use as any of the Raymarine and their fully automatic systems are. To date, not a single person I know has ever felt their Navico system was easy to use! Conversely, I can’t count how many people remark to me how very easy their Raymarine systems are to use and notice immediately their is zero adjustments needed to crest amazing pictures. So, I’m not thinking a system must be an AIRMAR transducer to give brilliant results.

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