Fuel management 6, Lowrance LMF-400

Ben Ellison

Ben Ellison

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21 Responses

  1. Anonymous says:

    I’m on my third season with an LMF 400. How can
    something that costs so little work so well.
    Have sense added the lmf 200 (little brother to
    the 400) and lots of other nmea 2000 devices.

  2. Dan (b393capt) says:

    Cool ! Very sharp looking too.

  3. Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

    Well, I should add that some people find the LMF-400 a bit pixelated. They definitely aren’t Garmin GMI or Raymarine ST70 hi res, or Furuno FI-50 crisp, but they are readable in all conditions I’ve seen so far (and I have one mounted on Gizmo now).

  4. HolySmokes says:

    I’ve been running this gauge and the included EP-60R fuel flow sensor all summer. It’s an incredibly adaptable, and very low-cost N2K device. Immediately picks up the N2K gps and speed data needed to compute mpg/etc.
    As far as remaining fuel, it works fine with only the EP flow device, once the tank was filled and the device reset.
    For about $160 for the package, this one’s a winner in my book.

  5. Tony says:

    I have an LMF-400, it recieves fuel and engine data from a Volvo diesel NMEA 2000 interface, and speed, depth, and rudder data from a Raymarine C80. It works great. I cannot find the EP-85r storage module you mentioned, so the fuel remaining feature does not work. The module is not listed at the Lowrance web site, nor at any of the on line vendors I have checked.

  6. Dave says:

    But does anyone know where I can get such a system for a vessel with:
    2 main engines (Rolls Royce 5440 BHP)
    2 Caterpillar (3412) generators
    1 emergency generator
    2 bow thruster engine?
    Bonus points if one can be found that doesn’t involve cutting all the fuel lines to add flanges & inline sensors and can also measure flow in the inlet & discharge piping. I’ve been looking at ultrasonic sensors but am sceptical about whether they will work in real life.
    Dave

  7. Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

    Tony, According to that last link in my entry, Evinrude sells the EP-85R for around $63.00, as part # 763704, a fuel memory Module. More info here, too:
    http://tinyurl.com/5q7cos

  8. Mark says:

    In the fuel page image, it indicates the Water Speed as being “63.99 N”. The other data fields on that page are labeled using conventional units of measure, “gal/h”, “nm/gal”, but what unit of measure is an “N” ?

  9. Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

    You’re right, Mark; the “N” would be better expressed as “nm” or better yet “k”. Lowrance’s to-the-hundreths “precision” is a little odd too, but doesn’t really impair the usefulness of the LMF-400.
    FYI, when the shot was taken, I was simulating a water speed of 64 knots so as to get a simple economy value of 1 nm/gal, which was useful for seeing clearly how different displays handled remaining fuel calculations. I have this gauge mounted on my 40hp test skiff now, and am happy to report that the Flow and Economy numbers are significantly better!

  10. Filip says:

    Hi!
    I have a Lowrance LCX-27C. Can I get the economy readout on that, or do I need a LMF-400 (does it do the calculation?)
    Thanks!

  11. bill says:

    Flip,
    The sensor, along with the gps antenna, does all
    the calculations, and can be displayed on the
    LCX 27 screen.

  12. Filip says:

    Ok, thank you (I have the lowrance n2k flow sensor) I will look more for the readout. So this would work with any n2k device? (Since the calculation is done in the sensor)

  13. boatguy says:

    I believe the latest version of the RayMarine C-Series firmware may display rudder angle via NMEA2000 – but only as text, not as a gauge graphic.

  14. Mwack Marine says:

    Has anyone tried the Lowrance EP-60R sensor with a Garmin 4000 series? Just wondering if you have to have a Lowerance LMF200 or LMF400 head to do calibration or are we finally at the holy grail whereby different devices can work with each other e,g, a lowrance fuel flow sensor with a garmin chartplotter (the lowrance flow sensor is half the price of the garmin sensor).

  15. Peter Brassington says:

    Hi
    Does Lowrance make a probe for diesel engines to allow connection to the LMF-400?

  16. Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

    Mwack, You can not set up a Lowrance fuel sensor without either a Lowrance gauge or MFD.
    Peter, Lowrance does not make a diesel fuel sensor but the LMF-400 works fine with the FloScan sensors linked to above.

  17. Mike in Brazoria says:

    I just installed the LMF400 with fuel flow, level, and paddle wheel sensors. Haven’t had it in the water but testing on the trailer looks good.
    However, one of the screens shows voltage can be either battery or alternator.
    Mine does not register either. I find no voltage sensors listed in the Lowrance catalog.
    I was instructed by Lowr to connect the power to the run of the tee that the LMF is connected to the branch. Since the power is not connected to a separate tee, could that be the reason for not getting a voltage readout?
    Thanks, Mike

  18. Bill says:

    Anyone have any experience with using a NMEA 0183 to NMEA 2000 converter with the LMF 400? My Garmin 3006C Chartplotter is a NMEA 0183 device and I would like to feed the speed over the ground info to the LMF so it can calculate MPG.

  19. Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

    Bill, I’ve tested two 0183-to-2000 translators and am pretty sure that either would do that job for you. Probably the least expensive is the Simrard AT10, which I wrote about here:
    http://www.panbo.com/archives/2008/05/simrad_at10_handy_but_limited.html
    Note that you will also need a SimNet tee and a patch cable to get from it to a regular NMEA 2000 male connector.
    The Actisense NGW-1 is more expensive but has a regular connector, and also translates more messages in both directions. I don’t know what else is on your NMEA 2000 backbone now, but the NGW-1 will give you more options.

  20. John says:

    I am considering a LMF 400 for fuel management on a carbeurated Mercruiser. However I would also like to use it to eliminate the tachometer. It appears I will need something to convert the tach signal from analog to digital…? Is there a reasonable and economical way to do this.
    I plan to retain the analog temp gauge and I have a Balmar gauge for volts/amps.

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