Adventure Zone, & more Spot Hug details

Ben Ellison

Ben Ellison

Panbo editor, publisher & chief bottlewasher from 4/2005 until 8/2018, and now excited to have Ben Stein as very able publisher, webmaster, and editing colleague. Panbo is going to the next level in 2019 and beyond.

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  1. Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

    By the way, if you drill down on the NARC Adventrue Zone site, you’ll see that Airielle is skippered by Panbo friend Bruce Schwab.
    Also, the reason I got into Spot this windy, wet weekend was because I’m helping two colleagues at Yachting get ready for a similar Newport/Bermuda/Caribbean passage. When the weather allows. I know they’ll also be carrying an EPIRB as their primary SOS device, as I’m sure Bruce and the other NARC boats are doing.

  2. Tim Flanagan says:

    I’m extremely excited about the potential of this SPOT HUG product. Although I still hate the name: “HUG”…seriously, guys? 🙂
    I’m impressed with the top-shelf GOST vessel monitoring and tracking products, but for many of us, with smaller boats (and smaller boat budgets!), the SPOT unit may be, as you suggest, just enough, at just the right price.

  3. Adam says:

    My thoughts are that I am frustrated by the proliferation of monitoring and alert systems that lack provision for integration with existing onboard sensors. I really don’t think that it’s the place of my security system to connect directly to the bilge sensors, smoke detectors, CO monitors, and shore power shunts I probably already have. I’d like to see SPOT — and Paradox, and Marine Guard, etc. — acknowledge that more and more boats are already monitoring these things locally and provide a way to access the data already being aggregated. Yes, I’m talking about N2K and Ethernet and even a serial connection.
    But perhaps I don’t understand this product. At the price point it seems like the sort of thing that a marine electronics installer would put in, not an end user. As such, ease of system integration should be a key product feature. Reading the press release, though, suggests that SPOT’s focus is a bit more on the plug-and-play aspects of the HUG. I’d be much more interested in a dedicated communication box with a built-in web server for configuration and knowledge of relevant N2K PGNS (AC and DC power, tank level, etc.).
    /afb

  4. Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

    Agreed, Tim, “Hybrid Universal Guardian” was a mouthful and even Spot seems to have dropped the phrase. Check out the GOST Immobilizer for a different approach to small boat security. I’m trying and it works well.
    Adam, Maretron will soon make N2K-to-Ethernet/Web pretty easy for users of N2KView, though you’ll still have to provide your own shore link. What Spot has going for it is that nearly global satellite short message service. But then again, Iridium has truly global two-way short messaging, and no doubt we’ll start seeing products based on their new little modem soon. I’d guess that if Hug is a success, an N2K version might follow.

  5. Adam says:

    Ben, yes I understand that if I already have some sort of Internet connection I can already use N2KView to transmit alerts via email (or email-to-SMS gateway) if something goes wrong.
    Your point about SPOT (and Iridium) offering global (or “not global” in SPOT’s case) short messaging is precisely correct: and wouldn’t it make sense to expose that network to the 50 or so data-generating devices already on my boat?
    /afb

  6. Rich G. says:

    All,
    One of the simplistic approaches embraced by the SPOT HUG design is that it’s bare wire connectors leave it available to a multidue of sensor options that are not neccessarily proprietary. Simply put, any sensor that can provide an “open” or “Closed” circuit can be monitored by the HUG.

  7. Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

    This week’s header photo is for George and Arnie who have been in seas something like those since Thursday and are now in about the same place I took that photo in 1978. George blogged about the wait before the voyage here:
    http://www.yachtingmagazine.com/blog-post/tortola/newport-to-tortola-the-waiting-game
    but I’m looking forward to reading what he has to say about the ride! The boys are getting some short emails out, which is how I know they’re in 10-15 footers, with occasional 25’s, and they’re struggling with a failing alternator. It’s amazing how well the Spot2 is tracking in those conditions; it’s hardly missed a 10 minute message in nearly 400 tries.

  8. Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

    Spot tracking shows that Sea Mist did a big, slow loop-de-loop just after dawn this morning, a rigging problem is my wild guess. But now they’re up to speed again, though perhaps toward Bermuda (which they’d been planning to skip because of their late start). Note how they’re sending Spot messages to family and friends (limit of 10 addresses per message type) at around midday. That was my suggestion, as I think we’ll be able to turn the data into something like a traditional noon position (once I mull through all the possibilities of Spot Sharing, Spot Adventure, Adventure Zone, and the various data output formats):
    http://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=0dWnc8su3drT77gUB8zTpet8hu0fofTay

  9. Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

    It turns out that Sea Mist’s odd morning track was all about drifting in light air because the alternator had busted again. A jury rig is in place, but untrusted, and the boys are nursing the Shannon 43 to Bermuda for real repairs. Arnie reports, via Iridium or Globalstar and OCENS email, that he’s been “dismantling things in order to provide parts for the many alternator repairs…like burning the walls of your house for firewood.”
    I just saw weather router Susan Genett’s forecast for the next few days to Bermuda and it’s impressively detailed. It was also Susan who first spotted the odd track this morning. She seems like a great ally to have when you’re way out there:
    http://www.realwx.com/about_us.html

  10. Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

    Sea Mist is making the classic Northern approach to Bermuda, and will be in St. George late tonight unless they decide to stand off:
    http://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=0dWnc8su3drT77gUB8zTpet8hu0fofTay
    George and Arnie’s recent blog entries suggest a stressful voyage:
    http://www.yachtingmagazine.com/blog-post/adventures/newport-to-tortola-days-3-5
    http://www.yachtingmagazine.com/blog-post/tortola/newport-to-tortolaerr-bermuda

  11. Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

    Thanks to Spot I watched Sea Mist motor through the cut and tie up next to the customs house in St. George. I dare say there will be some deep sleep aboard tonight.
    I also created a rudimentary Spot Adventure page that shows the whole track and (mostly) noon time messages. They logged 965 miles at 6.5 mph average (though missed a few miles of track when messaging).
    http://www.spotadventures.com/trip/view/?trip_id=233416

  12. norse says:

    re tracking fleets, Steve Dashew mentioned today that he has a Yellowbrick for the ARC Atlantic crossing, with photo:
    http://setsail.com/competitive-juices-and-the-arc/
    He says it uses an Iridium 9601, recently mentioned on Panbo.
    The Yellowbrick blog has an impressive gallery of fleets they have tracked:
    http://www.yellowbrick-tracking.com/?page_id=408

  13. Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

    Hi Norse, It’s the smaller, better, cheaper 9602 SBD modem that I wrote about last winter:
    http://www.panbo.com/archives/2010/01/iridium_9602_inmarsat_isatphone_pro_oh_boy.html
    I understand that the modems are in production, but I’m not sure any of the third party devices that use them are shipping yet. However, I understand that there will be lots of choices when they do get to market.
    The Yellowbrick looks great for fleet rental use like this, because there is zero training or underway management involved, and very high reliability I assume. But the standard model does cost 1,300 pounds and $25/month.

  14. Oscar says:

    I’m still not sure about the Spot Hug…Here’s my $0.02.
    The majority of issues onboard, with exception of theft, occur while a vessel is located at its slip. This inlcudes shore power disconnect, dead batteries, bilge, fire, etc… The HUG is sending notifications via satellite. Their technoogy is Simplex (one-way) and transmissions are expensive. It seems like this product is really designed for vessel tracking… I’ve seen another products that cost half as much and use land-based infrastructure to communicate intrusion, vessel monitoring and more. It was offered at a Marina in San Diego as an amenity. Spot has a reputation for tracking people, not monitoring onboard conditions. This HUG is a location aware security system. If you don’t hardwire it, you’ll be changing batteries way too often. I also can’t seem to find a battery voltage sensor or if the software has the ability for a user to set parameters for sensor to alert.
    Just my thoughts.

  15. Rich says:

    Oscar. Good point about the less expensive options using GSM technology instaed of Satellite. The reality is that most of the GSM systems aren’t that much cheaper and of course if you happen to be in a place that has poor or no GSM reception then your out of luck no matter what the price. Second scenario is that people who cruise in the Bahamas (like I do) or the Caribbean or anywhere that GSM coverage is not available or has a roaming charge really make this option less appealing and more expensive.
    The ultimate attraction to the HUG is that it offers a lot of value for the price. 1) The anti theft capability via Satellite at a better price than anything on the market (My insurance company was pretty happy about that). 2) The ability as a Satellite Communicator thrown in (if you use SPOT then you get what I’m talking about). 3) The Distress Capability included (yes I have an automatic GPIRB as well). 4) Tracking (which you eluded to as a strong SPOT feature). 5)Vessel Monitoring as well (which will run me a few dollars a year when it’s all said and done).
    All this for a $400 price on the unit (By the way every other system on the market no matter what the technology costs more than this for the base unit) and a roughly $200 a year service cost just blows everything else away in total value in my opinion.
    By the way. SPOT is coming out with a Low Voltage sensor for around $250 next month.

  16. Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

    Panbo reader Michael Wilson is underway from the Galapagos to French Polynesia with SPOT tracking enabled. He should lose contact eventually, according to the coverage map, but he’s showing up now:
    http://www.svfinnishline.co.uk/svfinnishline/Position.html
    And has anyone tried HUG?

  17. Anonymous says:

    Ben, you mentioned “As demonstrated on a large yacht in Lauderdale -…- the Hug can also monitor a boat’s battery bank ….”. I would like to find out what part to use to monitor the voltage and activate the sensor when too low. Besides the $180 accessory from Spot LLC, any (lower cost) suggestions?

  18. Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

    I don’t know of alternatives to the Spot voltage sensor, nor why it costs as much as it does. I had hoped to try the Hug system but it hasn’t happened yet. Asides from the battery sensor, are you happy with how it works, Anon? Any other Hug user want to report in?

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