Ideal Marine Electronics, from the readers of http://www.panbo.com/

 

"Good" category: About a 30’ cruising sail or powerboat doing short hops along coast with the occasional overnight trips; budget/value is important.

 

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3/19/07


Richard Stephens of Memory-Map, Inc., Corsair 28 Trimaran

 

Of course, my answer to your survey is biased by commercial interest, but here it is anyway!

I don't have much experience with power boats, but I know with sailboats, it is important to consider power consumption: If you are running a computer or
high-end plotter, it is going to draw up to about 5 Amps. So to run it continuously, you need 120 Ahrs. Allowing for 50% discharge, that requires
240 Ahrs of battery capacity (which weighs ~150lb
). Then you also have to provide a means to charge the battery, eg, two 100W solar panels. All this
is just to run the plotter, and is in addition to the other power/charging requirements of the boat.

So, your options are:
 - sail with the plotter mostly turned off
 - run the motor a lot
 - plug in to shore power

The other big issue is the investment in charts. Now the US charts are freely available, are you willing to be locked in to expensive, proprietary, out-of-date cartography? This is why I like to navigate with a Windows Mobile PDA: It gives all the advantages of computer navigation in a low-power, portable device. So...here is the gear I have on my boat (Corsair 28 Trimaran) for navigation, communication and entertainment.

Navigation / AIS
       iPaq 4700 PDA
       Otterbox 1900
       SiRF III GPS "Mouse"
       NASA AIS receiver
       ConnectBlue Bluetooth serial adaptor
Communication
       GlobalSat phone with Sea-Tech Marine Kit
       Standard Horizon VHF with RAM mic
Stand-alone backup navigation, near-shore communication
       Eten X500 cell phone with built-in GPS
       Otterbox 1600
       Garmin Foretrex 201 (wrist GPS)
Other:
       Pentax Optio W20 waterproof camera
       Navman speed/depth/wind instruments
       Bluetooth keyboard (for typing emails)
       Cheap computer speakers
Software for PDAs:
       Memory-Map Professional nav software
       Memory-Map add-ons for AIS and remote tracking
       Memory-Map Weather Radar
       SPB Imageer image editor
       Windows Mobile standard web browser and email
Battery & charging
       80 Ahr battery
       2 UniSolar 11W flex panels
       10A charger from outboard

Total cost, probably around $4000 (of which ~$1500 is the sat phone)
Total weight, around 85lb, of which 60lb is the battery.

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3/13/07

 

Big Max in Germany:

Tridata Instrument – log, sounder, temperature

Handheld GPS with or without maps ( eg. Garmin )

Laptop ( e.g. Tablet PC or UMPC )

+ charting SW ( e.g. Maptech )

+ electronic charts ( mainly raster charts, now free of charge for the US waters )

+ AIS-Receiver ( some kind of life insurance, if sailing in busy waters )

 

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3/9/07

 

John Williams, 1981 C&C 34 Scamper, already noted on Panbo for its economical style.

 

My nav station focuses around a computer connected to the internet via a cellular connection (not WiFi).  The computer has a GPS card, ECS, and AIS
(EIEIO).

Planning and large-scale navigation is great on the computer.  AIS is a whole lot of fun but not absolutely necessary.  In the open ocean, with the
receiving antenna 50' above the water, AIS has pretty astounding range so it starts to fall into the planning category.

Internet connectivity gives allows for all sorts of weather radar, data-buoy info, communications, satellite imagery, you name it.  I have had very good
luck with a Cingular GPRS connection all through Puget Sound and Canada. This is not for offshore.

A nice item at the nav station is a recording barometer to keep an eye on local weather trends and for a backup or cross-check to the computer.  A fixed mount VHF is also good at the nav station.

If you are at the helm, vs. keeping watch under autopilot, you likely need tools to augment what you see.  For small-scale navigation a chart-plotter GPS, with an efficient user interface, is good.  I'm using an ancient Garmin 76 but almost anything can work.   AIS would be good here too but I've not seen a reasonable way to do this.  I'm sure it will happen soon.

I often keep a Garmin eTrex Vista in my pocket for a quick check if I'm being too lazy to get up and walk to the helm or the nav station.  A handheld VHF is also at the helm but if I see a ship and want to make sure he knows I'll keep out of his way I'll go below to the fixed VHF.  More power and a quieter environment make for more reliable communications.

I also just added a MicroLog battery monitor.  It monitors charge and discharge current separately.  I can see that the solar panels are putting in 2 amps while the autopilot is taking out 1.5 amps.  Pretty useful for budgeting what I need to turn off and what I can leave on.

Obviously you need backups for all of this but that's getting outside the scope. Keep up the great work!

 

 

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Raul, 28' flybridge Bayliner:

 

In my boat's case there are more goodies on the lower helm because I run the boat from there in rainy or foggy weather.  Incidentally, on the upper left coast boats my size are routinely used for overnight trips, so I'm not sure why the 30' boat in your example should not be for overnight stays.

When I bought the boat (used) I was on a budget, so I couldn't afford networked electronics.  My suite consists of:

Fly bridge: Navman 5600 GPS/Plotter, Furuno 4100 fishfinder, Standard Horizon remote mike.

Lower helm: Navman 5600 GPS Plotter with NEMA depth from upper fishfinder, JRC 1500 Radar with NEMA waypoint from lower GPS, Standard Horizon Quantum VHF with NEMA position from lower GPS, Uniden VHF with NEMA position from upper GPS, KVH Electronic compass, laptop with C- map PC Planner software (not used real time; used to plan and upload routes).

The nice thing about my setup is that I have communications and Navigation redundancy.

 

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