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The Travel 1003, a serious case of Torqeedo love

Jul 25, 2011
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About two months ago I received a Torqeedo Travel 1003 for long term testing, I've used it almost every day since, and, well, the title tells the story. I simply adore this electric outboard! Admittedly certain personal traits may be in play. Historically small gas outboards are a significant exception to my generally high success rate with mechanical boating issues; possibly related is my annoyance with the smell and noise of the damn things (and the hearing aids don't help); and, finally, a faulty shoulder makes starting even a lawn mower somewhat painful. But then again I did not fall so hard for the original Travel 801 model that I tried in 2009...

Oh, the original Torqeedo design did impress me with its remarkable torque, its reliability, and its mild whirring sound (Torqeedos are not silent). But the LED "state of charge" indicators seemed vague, and without an expensive spare lithium-manganese battery, that meant that my range was also vague. The designers did try to compensate for this with a clever throttle system -- twisting from neutral through full speed takes you to a slower, automated RPM calculated on what the remaining charge can sustain for an hour -- but in practice that's awkward. When you try to slow down from that calculated speed, the motor speeds up first!
   There was also the fact that the Travel 801 tested in 2009 -- which admittedly had been through the hands of another rough reviewer already -- wouldn't easily dissemble into quite as compact a bag of components as originally designed. And I subsequently heard that some owners had more significant corrosion issues. Which may account for the nearly complete redesign that Torqeedo did on the Travel series, as illustrated below. A few features were lost, like the ability to adjust prop and tiller height interdependently, and to take the battery off without detaching plugs, but the T1003 is still only 30 pounds and that's before being fairly easily broken down into three components.
   Plus the new design is IP67 waterproof -- as Torqeedo convincingly demonstrated in this T1003 YouTube video -- and it feels really solid. What's especially neat, though, is the GPS and display built into the tiller assembly. You can not only get a percent-of-charge figure whenever you want, but also your speed underway and -- most important -- a variable range estimate based on current wattage drain...

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I doubt that we would have attempted to circumnavigate a large, high island in our 11-foot tender, as documented below, either with the original Travel 801 or just with oars (though I like rowing and it fortunately doesn't irritate my shoulder much). But it was easy, and very enjoyable, with the T1003. I've gotten so confident of its smooth throttle control that I regularly stand up and drive with a tiller extension, and the boat trims well with my best mate sitting forward in the middle seat. Altogether that was a cozy, quiet setup for enjoying the sights close in on the wild side of that island, while I could also keep an eye out for underwater ledges. (Standing up also means I can see traffic among all the moored boats in Camden Harbor well, as seen in the top photo.)  And the 3.5 mile trip was absolutely no strain on the T1003's battery either...

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I saw 87% battery charge on the T1003's 18 amp-hour battery (newly developed for 2011 and still only ten pounds) when we departed the anchored Gizmo and 44% when we got back, but I wasn't really going for economy. We did cruise a lot of that shoreline at very slow battery-sipping speeds -- heck, you can get down to a few RPMs if you're trying to, say, approach an active osprey nest with maximum stealth -- but I also gunned her for those open water legs, just for the hell of it. Now that only yields about 6 knots (and is also hell on the battery), but it's a lot faster than I can row. 
   At any rate, in normal around-the-harbor mode, I can go for weeks without charging the 1003 (which can take up to 18 hours using either home 110 or Gizmo's inverter). Torqeedo does offer a high-tech solar panel that outputs the needed high voltage, but it's high price too, and it seems like the ideal set up for this little boat would also charge it's EasyBailer system (another product I'm very fond of). The Travel 1003 at a retail price of $2,000 is not inexpensive either, but I don't think that compares too terribly to small outboard costs even without taking into account all the pluses. I know for sure that I find this motor a joy to use, and it's nicely extended big Gizmo's gunkholing capabilities.

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Comments

I am surprised more boaters don't go the electric route for skiffs and dinghies.I have a one on my 9.5ft skiff.
Just make sure your battery is fully charged and you're off!
No worries about old gas or stabalizers or clogged carbs,lower gear oil and on and on.

The lack of noise is the main thing.
Sigh..still have not seatrialed my 32ft cat with the cruise 2.0 ,hoping it will work out ok.

Posted by: Peter at July 25, 2011 4:24 PM | Reply

This is very timely, as I am looking for a new motor for my dingy. I watched the 1003 video on the Torqeedo web site, especially speed vs range. What is your experience Ben. Is this data reasonably accurate? Have you run any tests to determine how long it takes to discharge the battery at full throttle, at half throttle etc?

Posted by: Rick R Author Profile Page at July 25, 2011 5:05 PM | Reply

What, no photo credits ???

Posted by: Dan Corcoran (b393capt) Author Profile Page at July 25, 2011 6:01 PM | Reply

My concerns are:

- No 'throttle' on the handle. Very nice when coming alongside.
- Reverse. Preferably on the handle as well.
- Ease to change a damaged prop away from the mother ship?
- Use mother ship solar panels for charging?

Terry

Posted by: yachtvalhalla Author Profile Page at July 25, 2011 7:51 PM | Reply

The throttle is definitely on the handle, Terry, reverse too. And reverse has serious torque too (note the 11.5" two-bladed prop). I keep the 1003 locked down for fast stops and high power backing in Camden Harbor, but had it in kick up mode for that round island cruise.

Dan, I thought I'd at least given you credit in the photo name, but not so. Sorry! World, that top photo was taken by Dan Corcoran with my camera a couple weeks ago in Camden. Thanks, Dan!

Posted by: Ben Author Profile Page in reply to yachtvalhalla at July 25, 2011 8:28 PM | Reply

Peter,

I'm also the owner of a 32 foot sailing cat. I'd love to hear more about your Cruise 2.0 setup. How do you charge your batteries, for example? Do you have a generator that you can run while motoring to extend your range? It seems quite a challenge to make these work on larger boats.

Andrew

Posted by: Andrew Author Profile Page at July 26, 2011 3:52 AM | Reply

Hi Rick, the range indicator on the 1003 tiller display seems very responsive to speed changes, and the variation of ranges at different speeds is pretty startling, as Christoph Ballin suggests in that video. I believe there's truth in that, and can feel it when rowing this boat. It takes very little energy -- especially given the inefficiency of regularly lifting and repositioning the oars -- to go quite slowly in calm conditions, but LOTS to go fast.

I have not tested the accuracy of the range display, though, and it would be hard with this particular setup. For one thing, I can't easily sit back where I can see it well without either putting the boat way out of trim or having a passenger of my size or larger way forward. Peter's cat might be a better setup for this sort of testing, though maybe I could do something with the dinghy fixed to Gizmo.

I might add that I got to meet Torqeedo founder Ballin at a demo last February in Miami, picture here: http://goo.gl/Gy26c

And I saw him get some pretty sharp questioning about Lithium ION technology and safety from Ed Sherman and he responded with impressive knowledge and credibility. Ed has also become a Torqeedo fan: http://goo.gl/MSc0K

Posted by: Ben Author Profile Page in reply to Rick R at July 26, 2011 11:29 AM | Reply

Hi Andrew
I have seriously looked at the torqedos for a 10,000 pound cat. The Cruise 4.0R seems the best fit as a replacement for the ubiquitous Yamaha T9.9s, and the Cruise 2.0R looks great for cats under 6,000 pounds. There are suitable generators and battery banks on the market today for an efficient diesel/electric propulsion system, at a considerable price, which brought my research to a screaching halt.

BUT

It's getting there!

Posted by: Sandy Daugherty Author Profile Page at July 26, 2011 12:46 PM | Reply

Ben, I have looked at the Torqueedo over the years and the concept is great. But I think the one factor in getting this motor accepted in the boating world is the cost. Most of us boaters are cheap SOBs and I don't think this will become more than a wealthy mans toy until the price gets into a realistic range for the average boater. Chuck

Posted by: Capn. Chuck Author Profile Page at July 26, 2011 2:15 PM | Reply

Chuck, I thought a Honda 2hp, which seems vaguely comparable, was going for about $1,100. But checking again I see that one can be had for $875 from Defender and elsewhere. And 2 - 3.5 hp Mercurys and Tohatsu's seems to be in that same range, though none have a reverse gear, and I suspect the 1003 will push a bigger displacement boat.
But as far as non-planing tender motors go, the price gulf is wider than I realized. And another bummer is that the Honda 2hp that came with Gizmo is worth less than I thought! But, then again, I saw a number of negative reviews when I just looked at small outboard shopping sites like West Marine, and I've never gotten my Honda started, though it looks nearly new and still had a winter service tag on it.

Posted by: Ben Author Profile Page in reply to Capn. Chuck at July 26, 2011 3:55 PM | Reply

Ben, Both Nissan and Mercury 2.5 HP can be had in the $700.00 plus range if you research enough. Honda is heavy and not what they used to be. Lots of Honda OB owners are unloading them for reasons just like your problem. I would like to see companies like Torqueedo get real with pricing, the gap gets wider with the larger engine, so that those of us that want to get green and quiet could consider them as an alternative. We are in the market for a new OB right now but can't pry all those dollars from my hands for electric. Add to that the thrust comparisons for the electric make it necessary to buy the more expensive model to make it comparable to the traditional OB. Chuck

Posted by: Capn. Chuck Author Profile Page at July 26, 2011 4:07 PM | Reply

I was seriously considering a Torqueedo for an inflatable to tool around the harbor with the kids. The manager of my local West Marine advised she had several customers with serious technical and customer service problems with their Torqueedo motors (unsure if new or old style). Any issues with yours yet, or interaction with their customer service?

Do you suppose that 1003 would get a 9 foot inflatable on plane?

Posted by: Brad at July 26, 2011 4:28 PM | Reply

The Torqeedos have certainly come along way. Interesting to see more and more applications of these, particularly with the larger Cruise models.

Posted by: Luke at July 26, 2011 4:34 PM | Reply

@yachtvalhalla,

Replacing a damaged prop on the 1003 is not difficult, but whether you could do it away from the mother ship depends on what tools you are carrying -- I assume this is the case as well for a gas powered o/b.

To replace the prop, you remove the prop nut with a 17mm socket (this is a bit more difficult if the shear pin is gone), then work the prop off. Drift out the shear pin and any parts left in the shaft (can you tell I've done this?), then put a new shear pin through the shaft and replace the prop. If you've done it before it takes about 10 minutes.

/afb

Posted by: Adam Author Profile Page in reply to yachtvalhalla at July 27, 2011 1:08 PM | Reply

@Brad,

I very much doubt that the 1003 would get a 9' inflatable on plane. We have a Walker Bay RID275 (8' rotomold hull with 10" tubes) that weighs about 100 lbs. Using the 1003, our maximum speed with two on board is about 5 kts.

/afb

Posted by: Adam Author Profile Page in reply to Brad at July 27, 2011 1:11 PM | Reply

I have a similar setup. Walker Bay RID275 with Torqueedo 1003 and the whole package works really well. I used to have a Honda 2HP but decided to switch to the Torqueedo because the Honda is air cooled (meaning it's quite loud) and very heavy for a 2 HP (it's a 4 cycle motor). The Honda had been quite reliable but we got tired of having to stow an extra gas tank on board and we felt bad whenever we took our dog ashore early mornings. Nothing worse than waking everyone in the anchorage when taking your dog ashore. Damn thing sounded like a lawnmower.

The Torqueedo is very quiet (but not completely silent). The range is good as long as you don't twist the "throttle" too much. I wouldn't recommend the smaller unit because it doesn't have enough range based on my experience with the 1003. I would be afraid that I would constantly be recharging it.

On the negative side, my Torqueedo 1003 has exhibited periodic "failures" where it refuses to turn over and displays various error codes. Disconnecting and reconnecting the battery resolves the issue. It doesn't happen often and is easy to fix so it's mainly irritating . I have only had this motor for about 5 weeks now so if this problem persists I will send it back for service at the end of the season.

Also, I would not recommend this motor to anyone who needs to get to their destination in a hurry. We tend to run it at 2, 2.5 knots and this provides a decent speed and range. At this speed we can get many hours out of a single charge. Once you hit above 2.5 knots you will see your range drop dramatically. Not a problem if you have access to an AC power source but if you're out cruising and don't want to continuously recharge the battery, you better take it easy.

The display mounted on the tiller is great and helps you get rid of "range anxiety".

One great feature is the motor will "beep" a couple of times to warn you once you hit 30% of reserve power. It will also do this every time you turn it on until you recharge it.

Speaking of recharging. You can hook up the tiller unit to the battery while you are recharging it. This way you will see the status of the charge via the tiller's lcd display.

I would recommend this motor to anyone who wants to kick the "gas" habit as long as you are aware of the limitations. They are few but it's not the same as having access to the horsepower and extended range of a gas engine.

You also better be an outgoing person because you will asked about it in every anchorage you visit. We get flagged down constantly because people are still not used to seeing them around.

Posted by: Maurice in reply to Adam at July 27, 2011 2:25 PM | Reply

Hey Maurice,

I've had the 1003 since May, and have enjoyed it with the wife and kids. It moves my 10 ft West Marine HP 310 inflatable nicely, not on plane but at about 5.5 mph, full throttle.

Over the past two weeks though, I have also noticed the "E45" battery overcurrent error when I decelerate (causing the motor to stop and necessitating shutting off the power and restarting) and it happens rather frequently. Have you gotten this same error as well?

It hasn't affected traveling at full throttle, so the kids are happy, but I've notified Torqeedo and I'll let you know what advice they may have about resolving this. I did try recalibrating the tiller per the Travel 1003 manual, and this seemed to help a little. I'll try again this weekend and will keep you posted.

Posted by: Paul in reply to Maurice at July 29, 2011 8:33 AM | Reply

Paul, we get the same E45 battery problem if we jam the throttle too quickly in one direction or the other. It happened the first time when I hit a rock with the prop, and the second time when I hit a coral head. :) The first hit broke a shear pin but the second just E45'ed and I was able to run again after shutoff.

I have found that if I am a bit gentle with the speed changes I don't get the error. I will be interested to see what Torqeedo support has to tell you.

/afb

Posted by: Adam Author Profile Page in reply to Paul at July 29, 2011 1:49 PM | Reply

We would really like to rid ourselves of a gas powered outboard. Dinghies are a necessary pain in the a... We have considered this as an option but now wonder if a cheaper trolling motor is a viable solution. We would like a small inflatable and tag this on the stern for the times we need a dinghy. I would like a better solution to charge batteries underway than an inverter.

Posted by: Lookout Sailors Author Profile Page at July 29, 2011 6:41 PM | Reply

Last winter I installed the Torqeedo cruise 2.0 on my small sailing yacht, a Danish designed "Marsvin", 22ft double ender.
Power comes from 6 pcs lithium batteries, 270ah at 24volts, at 85 kgs. Shorepower in Europe is often of low amperage, so I decided for two 12volt chargers of 20amp.
Additionally I installed a solar panel with high spec mppt controller, which can power the system a 4.5amp at 24 volt. The easily driven hull reaches  about 2knots only on sunshine!
Depending on speed my range with full batteries is estimated between 15miles (at 6knots) to 45miles at 4knots. Range at 2knots is some hypothetical 150 miles even enhanced by the solar panel, but surely usable when motor sailing in light air.

By the way: besides above I also installed a N2K system: maretron and airmar with ray autopilot. All system is monitored by iPad and iPhone. And: this system was inspired by this website.
A few week ago I made a first sea trial: 75 miles solo on North Sea: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoO2DCoSjdI

Posted by: Joost Author Profile Page at July 30, 2011 4:27 AM | Reply

Thanks, Joost; looks like a neat setup. Are there pictures anywhere online?

Posted by: Ben Author Profile Page in reply to Joost at July 30, 2011 11:04 AM | Reply

Joost,sounds like my system except for the batteries..
could you advise what type/brand of lithium you are using?

Posted by: Peter at July 30, 2011 6:27 PM | Reply

Ben, I forgot to mention my one big pet peeve about the 1003: The plastic threads on the cable locks.

You've heard me on this one before (I'm looking at you, Garmin N2K cables), but given the constant connecting and disconnecting required with the Torqeedo the situation is much graver. I can almost never get the main battery cable connected without it at least starting to cross-thread. The N2K-style tiller cable is easier to manage because the cable isn't as stiff as the high-current battery cable, but I still live in fear of the day that the threads on one or the other get badly mangled.

Torqeedo claims "2011 improvements" to the 1003 but doesn't say what they are. Are metal connectors among them?

/afb

Posted by: Adam Author Profile Page at July 31, 2011 2:10 AM | Reply

Hi Adam, I think the 2011 improvement is the 520 watt hour battery. The connectors are still plastic, both male and female. I'm careful with them but I think the real danger is combining metal and plastic threads, as sometimes happens in NMEA 2000 installs. I'd like to believe that a plastic-to-plastic cross thread could be healed.

Posted by: Ben Author Profile Page in reply to Adam at July 31, 2011 3:29 PM | Reply

Quick update on my last trip using the Torqueedo Travel 1003 on my Walker Bay dinghy. Just returned from a week's vacation and used the Torqueedo daily. No more errors or issues using the OB except an annoying "squeak" that manifests itself whenever I turn the motor. I don't know what kind of grease I can use to take care of this without affecting any of the plastic parts. Other than that the motor has been flawless on this trip.

Posted by: Moxieskipper Author Profile Page at August 8, 2011 11:00 AM | Reply

@Moxieskipper, I get the same squeak, but it only started after we broke and replaced the shear pin. I noticed that despite it's purpose the shear pin when breaking did dig into the prop somewhat, but I don't know if the squeaking is related to that deformation or not.

/afb

Posted by: Adam Author Profile Page in reply to Moxieskipper at August 8, 2011 2:57 PM | Reply

Interesting. In my case I find I hear the squeak each time I pivot the motor port or starboard whether the motor is running or not. The sound seems to come from the pivot point when the motor is in and out of the water. Sounds like a plastic bushing that's dried out but I can't tell if there are any bushings or anything serviceable in there.

Posted by: Moxieskipper Author Profile Page in reply to Adam at August 8, 2011 3:08 PM | Reply

Sharing what I have learned so far...

I have a 2011 torqueedo 1003 on my macgregor 26s and it pushes it just fine, although not as fast as our old, completely infuritatingly unreliable, honda 5.
With little to no wind i get the following approximate speeds and battery range(per the tiller handle GPS readout):
45 watts = 1mph = >10+ hours ( i can't see the use of running at theis speed for very long)
100 watts = 2mph = 6+ hours
300 watts = 3mph = ~2 hours
650 watts = 4mph = ~1 hour
1025 watts (full)= ~4.5mph = 35minutes
Much more efficient at low speed, obviously.

I have yet to run the battery below 65%, tending to be on the conservative side and preferring to use the sails whenever possible. We have supplemented the sails in low wind situations with good results.

The 'throttle' control is excellent, being able to run under10 watts in either direction makes for very controlled docking. Virtually silent when running this low too. Our gas motor that stalled below 1500rpm used to be very tricky in the same situation, usually drawing a crowd of springline catchers at the slip in case I timed it wrong and came in too hard. So it is a huge improvement.

The electric is consistantly easy to use and with the exception of the occaisional E45 error code, has been problem-free. This error (so far) can be mitigated by disconnecting blowing on pins and reconnecting, sometimes more than once. It is however, mildly concerning that I would get this with a brand new product. The 1003l comes apart easily and can be unmounted from the stern and stored under deck when not in use. They recommend that the battery is not left out in the sun anyway.

Torqeedo sells a solar charger that costs another thousand bucks... Too much for me, so i've improvised. This weekend I will run my new range-extension solar system for a two-day overnight cruise. I have concerns with the panel voltage dropping below what the torqeedo wants, so the following is my solution for now: costco deep cycle marine battery, an old 42 watt uni-solar panel, an old charge controller and some fittings/connectors that i picked up cheap. I can either charge directly from the battery with 12v via a barrel plug and some wire clamps, or, as an alternative, with a cigarette plug, a 200 watt inverter, & the supplied 120v charger. I expect that this step up then back down will result in substantial power/efficiency lost. If possible I will try to find a way to determine the difference. I want a meter to monitor the deep cycle 12v to make sure it does not discharge too low. i think I have one somewhere, but might have to do without, at least this time around. i will experiment with different places to mount the panel. Directly over the motor atop the stern rail corner seems like the least obtrusive, but may block the GPS reciever in the torqueedo.

From the manual (http://www.torqeedo.com/us/hn/downloads/manuals.html)
"Also you can charge the Travel battery from a 12 V battery bank (boat/car) with a direct connection cable (not included in delivery). In this case, use a cable with a cross sectional area of at least 0.5 mm2 (American wire gauge 20 or bigger). The charge barrel plug has the measures 5.5 / 2.5 mm."

The only other minor issue that I have so far is that my Macgregor 26's motor mount well is not long enough to hold the tiller when the motor is raised. I have to remove the handle (but not disconnect). If the tiller handle were just a few inches shorter, this would not be an issue. It does not have to be as long as it is, since it's a low power motor, and there's no hearing problem with being close to it as it "whirs".

I'll try to return to this post after I have some experience with the new setup.

PS I got it from defender after really digging around for the best price. Saved about $150 over the worst price out there. They also had the 1003s on clearance sale for about $250? less not too long ago. Seemed like a great deal for a dinghy. I needed the "l" for the sailboat.

Posted by: timb429 at August 9, 2011 2:13 PM | Reply

Hey Adam,

Torqeedo service informed me that the E45 error (Motor safety stop when hitting an object) is very likely the result of a software issue with the 1003. I purchased a 1003 with an early software version(January 2011) which causes the motor to stop even when not hitting an object because the setting was too high. They can fix this by upgrading the software at their Crystal Lake, IL center.

They've sent me shipping labels and I'm sending it back this coming Monday to have the service done. Should be back in about a week. I'll let you know the results as soon as I can. Sven, their service rep who I worked with, has been very helpful- he said to give them a call if you have questions about this issue with your motor. Their service number is 1 (815) 444 8806.

Posted by: Paul in reply to Adam at August 12, 2011 8:55 AM | Reply

Following up on my post about extra range and E45:

The connection between the battery and the controller was bad and would only stay when pressure was applied. I contacted torqueedo about this and the E45 code. They fixed both issues at no cost to me and without any hassle. They paid shipping both ways (I had the box and packing, which helped, otherwise they would have sent me a box). This was done very promptly and so far has been flawless. The E45 code is to shut down the motor when the prop is obstructed. According to TQ they had the threshold set to low on some of the earlier software versions. Going from dead stop to moderate throttle was probably too much sudden torque. Since it has been fixed, I've had the code appear only once, but this was when a line got tangled in the prop, so it appears to be working as intended.
I improved my range by adding a deep cycle marine battery and a 45 watt solar panel. I made a direct connection between the two with a cable, two clamps, and a $6 charger barrel fitting from radio shack*. The TQ will draw about 50 watts from the battery (the same rate at which the wall adapter charges it), so any throttle under this will read 0 watts. Using 100 watts it will indicate 50 watts etc. When sailing or otherwise giving the motor a break, it was cool to see the % charge indicator gradually go up. The marine battery, if drained halfway (anymore is bad for it), will double the TQ's range. Add as many as you need. I got mine at costco for well under $100 which is far better than the $thousand for an extra TQ battery. I didn't need the range, so this allowed me to run faster than I would have otherwise. As far as I know the solar panel is keeping the marine battery charged.
*From the manual: "The charge barrel plug has the measures 5.5 / 2.5 mm" is all you need to know at radio shack to get the correct pin. Be sure get the polarity correct when making your charge cable.
I hope this helps someone who is considering a TQ. At this point, overall I recommend it.

Posted by: timb429 at October 11, 2011 11:49 AM | Reply

Hi!
We recently completed the first season with the 1003 on our 20' daysailer (weighs about 1100kg with us aboard).
We have bought the TQ in early 2011 but it's a 2010 model anyway, we just got the 'bigger' battery with it.
It works fine, nearly perfect, for us as we do not leave the lakes and channels into the open sea.
We encountered the "E45" issue a few times when switching from forward to reverse or vice versa. Here it looks like it's better not to wait in "stop" but to change the direction without hesitation (as i was used to do with the mechanical gear on gasoline engines). The electronic brain brakes the prop and immediately starts counterrotation, so the motor is not forced to run against the prop being driven by the boats movement through the water.

One thing that has been changed by TQ for the 2011 models is the tilting mechanism respectively the stern brackets. Somehow it happened to bend the small latch that keeps the engine in the upper position, for sake at the end of the last weekend on the water this year. It has been replaced by a stronger construction... I got the parts from TQ and mounted them myself today to avoid shipping the whole machine.
If you have a pre-2011 engine keep an eye on that!
The older latch/release-lever is an almost straight, about 3" long and an half inch wide. The new construction is about one inch wide and has a 90° bend in it (pretty much like the tilt-lock lever).

I bought the three bladed prop (that comes with the Travel 503 originally) just to check for it's effect on speed and range. Next season we will use the TQ on a small (14') rowing boat, at least with that the behaviour is probably better. Changing the prop is a question of a minute...

greetings from Germany
Frank

Posted by: Frank at November 29, 2011 11:38 AM | Reply

Hi all, I sail in a J 80, 1'5 Tons and 4 years ago I fall in love with Torqeedo, today I'm the Torqeedo sale manager for Spain and Portugal........ I only can work with service or products that I truly believe on.
I appreciate your enthusiastic comments that means I choose a right way of life.

Best wishes from Spain.

Posted by: carlos martinez at January 17, 2012 3:50 AM | Reply

Hi Ben

How about an update on your T 1003 experience? The six month trial must be up but then perhaps I missed something.

We would like to get one but are in Thailand at the moment and heading across the Indian Ocean early 2012. A month in Chagos with an electric outboard driving a Tinker traveler with sail option is a dream.

We have come across some negatives re reliability, locking up etc and poor service from Germany and being on the other side of the world would make any problems a lot worse so look fwd to your final comments.

We love your blog and have bought a Watchmate AIS and the Broadband radar recently based on your reviews. We mentioned your review to Jeff at Vesper Good work!

Cheers Jim

Posted by: jim den hartog at March 11, 2012 3:34 AM | Reply

Jim, the test 1003 did develop what sounds like a possible bearing issue toward the end of last summer. At high RPMs it whines and shakes a bit. I did remove the prop and check for shear pin damage, line around shaft, etc., but everything looked fine. The motor also continued to run fine at lower RPMs the rest of the season. I meant to call Torqeedo USA to further troubleshoot, but haven't gotten around to it yet.

That said, I do believe that most Torqeedo negatives relate to the first generation designs, and that equipping your tender with one could be wonderful for exploring and bird watching in the Chagos.

Posted by: Ben Author Profile Page in reply to jim den hartog at March 11, 2012 5:27 PM | Reply

Interesting. Torqeedo is now getting venture capital support from Bosch (the Bosch).

http://www.torqeedo.com/us/news-us/press-releases

Also, that bad bearing sound I described in the last comment seems to have gone away over the winter.

Posted by: Ben Author Profile Page at March 28, 2012 2:05 PM | Reply

We just turned on our cruise 2. It worked for about 1 min then got an error 47. Does anyone know what this is or how to fix it?

Posted by: Anonymous at April 11, 2012 12:26 AM | Reply

I was interested in the Torqueedo until I saw the new Lehr propane outboard. runs from a small bottle (like a cartridge) or the big bottles like you use to run a stove and heater.

No gummy gasoline, one less fuel to care for, one less battery to care for. the Lehr Propane OB costs lots less too.

Does anybody have any knowledge of this motor?

Posted by: Rick Gard at April 12, 2012 10:07 PM | Reply

Thanks for the reminder, Rick. I briefly saw the Lehr in Miami as it was a West Marine featured product. That's a good sign in itself -- West is careful about such things. The Lehr seems very interesting though I'm not sure any 'civilians' are using them yet. I haven't even heard of loaners for writers yet, but I'm going to ask.

I did find the company site:

http://golehr.com/

and also an informative blog entry by Dieter Loibner:

http://blog.boattrader.com/2012/03/propane-powered-outboards-by-lehr.html

Posted by: Ben Author Profile Page in reply to Rick Gard at April 13, 2012 1:31 PM | Reply

Hi,

just a short addendum regarding the 3-bladed prop:
Had the first run on our daysailer (20ft) last weekend. The 1003 runs really good with it, first noticeable effect: Better, faster response with low power (docking)! Second effect: Under full load the engine always reaches maximum power and the boat runs a little faster than before (4.5kn -> 4.9kn). With the two-bladed prop the engine was limited at a certain rpm (1200rpm, following the technical data) at maximum boat-speed but it didn't reach maximum electric power then. Now it runs at power-limit while accelerating and while running with the slightly higher topspeed.

Frank

Posted by: Frank in reply to Frank at May 1, 2012 4:31 PM | Reply

Need to replace shear pin.
Cannot get nut off. It seems to turn the whole motor and will not loosen. Help!

Posted by: david lambrix at May 20, 2012 8:08 PM | Reply

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